Comments on: Llandudno Idiot http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/ Surfing in Cape Town Wed, 16 May 2012 22:14:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: MAB http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-10678 MAB Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:15:27 +0000 http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/#comment-10678 There was an incident a couple weeks back where a foreigner (spanish?) paddled up to me asking about the break, rip, winds etc. I've only been riding llands for the last year or so, so I told him what I could and sent him on his - probably should have mentioned that there's some serious hierarchy in the line-up. 10 minutes later this dude was dropped in on heavily and rightfully had a bit to say about it, the situation erupted and his day was over - it was juvenile - kiff holiday in SA. Coming from New Pier / North Beach, I've had my fair experience with locals growing up and have always known my way around the line-up. It started with a respect for the older, more experienced riders, which in turn was reciprocated to the younger, in training groms. The transition from one to the other was seamless and by no means meant that your earned your stripes to act like a cunt. Dropping in, 90% of the time in my mind is an accident, either due to not seeing the rider with right of way or not knowing. Surely the classic whistle or shout to remind the rider in question is enough, perhaps with an explanation - an approach that builds mutual respect above anything. That's it, surely? Of course if somebody is doing it on purpose and ignoring any forewarning it's a completely different story, and have whats coming to them. I was informed of the locals at Llandudno, which was a laughable thought in the first place - that people who share such a unique passion for the ocean and nature can be tarnished with such a selfish, shitty character trait. I always made sure to stay in line and in turn, which still managed to get some snide comments just for being there. Over time there's never been a problem, it's avoidable, but just fucking annoying. Where does the transition lie? I surf whenever I can so that I can get away from all the assholes associated with everyday life, and these days it seems that most of them are in the water. There was an incident a couple weeks back where a foreigner (spanish?) paddled up to me asking about the break, rip, winds etc. I’ve only been riding llands for the last year or so, so I told him what I could and sent him on his – probably should have mentioned that there’s some serious hierarchy in the line-up. 10 minutes later this dude was dropped in on heavily and rightfully had a bit to say about it, the situation erupted and his day was over – it was juvenile – kiff holiday in SA. Coming from New Pier / North Beach, I’ve had my fair experience with locals growing up and have always known my way around the line-up. It started with a respect for the older, more experienced riders, which in turn was reciprocated to the younger, in training groms. The transition from one to the other was seamless and by no means meant that your earned your stripes to act like a cunt. Dropping in, 90% of the time in my mind is an accident, either due to not seeing the rider with right of way or not knowing. Surely the classic whistle or shout to remind the rider in question is enough, perhaps with an explanation – an approach that builds mutual respect above anything. That’s it, surely? Of course if somebody is doing it on purpose and ignoring any forewarning it’s a completely different story, and have whats coming to them. I was informed of the locals at Llandudno, which was a laughable thought in the first place – that people who share such a unique passion for the ocean and nature can be tarnished with such a selfish, shitty character trait. I always made sure to stay in line and in turn, which still managed to get some snide comments just for being there. Over time there’s never been a problem, it’s avoidable, but just fucking annoying. Where does the transition lie? I surf whenever I can so that I can get away from all the assholes associated with everyday life, and these days it seems that most of them are in the water.

]]> By: ballie http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-10600 ballie Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:40:48 +0000 http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/#comment-10600 llandudno has been like this for years but really got going with heavy aggro with the likes of John and his crew. Since then, there has been a steady supply of complete assholes at this beach. I have been surfing for over 35 years, Ive travelled the country and the islands and have never experienced the kind of childish, selfish bad manners one has to deal with here. There were a couple of decent guys, du Plessis and Mack back in those days who while good surfers, did'nt really get involved. Considering the fact that I have surfed there since the early 70's ( most weekends if conditions were right ) I guess I am more of a local than the idiot you are referring to! Don't take his, or anyone elses shit at Llands.Surfing there , back in day with the likes of Johnny p and those huys was relaxed, AS IT SHOULD BE! llandudno has been like this for years but really got going with heavy aggro with the likes of John and his crew. Since then, there has been a steady supply of complete assholes at this beach. I have been surfing for over 35 years, Ive travelled the country and the islands and have never experienced the kind of childish, selfish bad manners one has to deal with here. There were a couple of decent guys, du Plessis and Mack back in those days who while good surfers, did’nt really get involved. Considering the fact that I have surfed there since the early 70′s ( most weekends if conditions were right ) I guess I am more of a local than the idiot you are referring to! Don’t take his, or anyone elses shit at Llands.Surfing there , back in day with the likes of Johnny p and those huys was relaxed, AS IT SHOULD BE!

]]> By: Dynamicviper http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-10516 Dynamicviper Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:03:51 +0000 http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/#comment-10516 Localism is hogturd, its giving people the "Right" to kak other people out. I have surfed for 14 years at a home spot up the south coast, and I ALSO PAID MY DUES, but I dont go threaten new people in the water. I even let the good waves go through often. That will entice other people to respect me, NOT FEAR ME. I am no in Cape Town for a couple of years, and like surfing Sea Point/Mouille Point, and I still get tuned to pieces, even though I know a few of the surfers there. Even if I sit out there and get 1 wave in every 5th set, it does not matter, its me enjoying "my Time" out in the ocean. If everyone thinks they are government, the ocean will become a war zone. This bum basher of a surfer that tunes everyone in Llandudno, "for the case of this debate i'll call him Neptune" the last guy that tuned me like that at my spot, and road over me, I went to work on his cars paint work.!!!!!!! you gonna piss off the wrong person oneday with your arrogant childish manner and you will get flattened. Localism is hogturd, its giving people the “Right” to kak other people out. I have surfed for 14 years at a home spot up the south coast, and I ALSO PAID MY DUES, but I dont go threaten new people in the water. I even let the good waves go through often. That will entice other people to respect me, NOT FEAR ME. I am no in Cape Town for a couple of years, and like surfing Sea Point/Mouille Point, and I still get tuned to pieces, even though I know a few of the surfers there. Even if I sit out there and get 1 wave in every 5th set, it does not matter, its me enjoying “my Time” out in the ocean. If everyone thinks they are government, the ocean will become a war zone. This bum basher of a surfer that tunes everyone in Llandudno, “for the case of this debate i’ll call him Neptune” the last guy that tuned me like that at my spot, and road over me, I went to work on his cars paint work.!!!!!!! you gonna piss off the wrong person oneday with your arrogant childish manner and you will get flattened.

]]> By: Nick Soper http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-8034 Nick Soper Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:09:13 +0000 http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/#comment-8034 Thanks mate. See you in the water hopefully! Thanks mate. See you in the water hopefully!

]]> By: Handre van der Merwe http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-8033 Handre van der Merwe Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:06:00 +0000 http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/#comment-8033 Truly - there are some real small minded knob heads in this world. Shame. Lekker site Nick!, keep up the good work Truly – there are some real small minded knob heads in this world.

Shame.

Lekker site Nick!, keep up the good work

]]> By: Pierre http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-4524 Pierre Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:12:43 +0000 http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/#comment-4524 Al, our stories sound very similar ! screw them --- everyone was at that level at some point ,,, i go there weekly and will keep going - life's too short to miss out on fun and get vibed by selfish boneheads,,, funny how so many people have come through in this blog/comment feeling the same way - almost as if they are the majority ,,, i venture left as well every now and again (mostly early mornings) but ill FLAT OUT ignore anyone of the so called locals (im local i live in lunds) if they ever told me i wasst suppose to be there - fuck that haters everyone needs the deep end to learn .. Al, our stories sound very similar ! screw them — everyone was at that level at some point ,,, i go there weekly and will keep going – life’s too short to miss out on fun and get vibed by selfish boneheads,,, funny how so many people have come through in this blog/comment feeling the same way – almost as if they are the majority ,,, i venture left as well every now and again (mostly early mornings) but ill FLAT OUT ignore anyone of the so called locals (im local i live in lunds) if they ever told me i wasst suppose to be there – fuck that haters everyone needs the deep end to learn ..

]]> By: Al Mitchell http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-4521 Al Mitchell Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:32:05 +0000 http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/#comment-4521 I lived in your amazing city for 4 months last year and as a very rooky surfer wanted to take the opportunity to surf as much as possible as I live in London - not great for surfing! I regularly surfed Muzies and Llandudno. I despise this chat about as a 'kook' surfer you should have to stay on beginner beaches - sometimes you need to push yourself to improve and when there was a particularly meagre wave at muzies I would resort to trying to catch something at llandudno and it definitely helped my surfing. Although I sometimes did venture into the 'experienced/locals' only take off zone I always pulled out of any other wave and almost never got in anyones way. I therefore do not see any problem with less experienced surfers surfing there and certainly do not think it is dangerous if they are sensible. I also received a fair bit of unfriendly chat although only one particularly bad incident where someone tried to tell me and another dude that we were getting in his way. Interesting to read this blog because I have great memories of cape town but by far and away the worst are those of some of the local surfers who treat the ocean as theirs and theirs only. I am a very experienced skiier and when I go skiing I do not treat beginners like shit and give them grief if they wipe out because I am respectful and more than happy for others to take up a great sport. I am going surfing in Morocco next week and I hear the locals are very friendly! Having said this I made 2 great mates surfing in CT - they are form Zim and shared very similar views about locals. Great blog I lived in your amazing city for 4 months last year and as a very rooky surfer wanted to take the opportunity to surf as much as possible as I live in London – not great for surfing! I regularly surfed Muzies and Llandudno.

I despise this chat about as a ‘kook’ surfer you should have to stay on beginner beaches – sometimes you need to push yourself to improve and when there was a particularly meagre wave at muzies I would resort to trying to catch something at llandudno and it definitely helped my surfing. Although I sometimes did venture into the ‘experienced/locals’ only take off zone I always pulled out of any other wave and almost never got in anyones way. I therefore do not see any problem with less experienced surfers surfing there and certainly do not think it is dangerous if they are sensible. I also received a fair bit of unfriendly chat although only one particularly bad incident where someone tried to tell me and another dude that we were getting in his way.

Interesting to read this blog because I have great memories of cape town but by far and away the worst are those of some of the local surfers who treat the ocean as theirs and theirs only. I am a very experienced skiier and when I go skiing I do not treat beginners like shit and give them grief if they wipe out because I am respectful and more than happy for others to take up a great sport. I am going surfing in Morocco next week and I hear the locals are very friendly! Having said this I made 2 great mates surfing in CT – they are form Zim and shared very similar views about locals.

Great blog

]]> By: frsh http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-3543 frsh Fri, 12 Nov 2010 12:55:01 +0000 http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/#comment-3543 wtf - ocean belongs to all - days of localism BS are over - yes show respect at all times but equally. wtf – ocean belongs to all – days of localism BS are over – yes show respect at all times but equally.

]]> By: crashNburn http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-1234 crashNburn Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:05:14 +0000 http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/#comment-1234 Wayne's a Po-ess ,,paddle over to him , place 2 hands pull him towards your face ,,and bite his nose off ! guarentee he'll keep hi strap shut thereon in ..I'll keep an eye out for him Wayne’s a Po-ess ,,paddle over to him , place 2 hands pull him towards your face ,,and bite his nose off ! guarentee he’ll keep hi strap shut thereon in ..I’ll keep an eye out for him

]]> By: CC http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/comment-page-1/#comment-1233 CC Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:39:19 +0000 http://capetownsurfer.com/2007/02/26/llandudno-idiot/#comment-1233 Also heard that he was punched recently by a foreign surfer who came looking for him at his work. Also heard that he was punched recently by a foreign surfer who came looking for him at his work.

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